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Quitting Smoking Can Be An Emotional Roller Coaster

  
  
  

One minute you feel fine, the next you feel like crying at the drop of a hat.  Other times you may feel like breaking something (or someone). describe the image

Welcome to the roller coaster of emotions called quitting smoking.  Feelings of anger, stress, sadness, anxiety, and elation cycle back and forth, up and down, and take you for a loop-de-loop leaving you feeling physically exhausted and emotionally drained.

If you think you are on this ride alone, you’re not.  Many ex-smokers experience mood swings when they quit smoking.  This is because nicotine is a mood enhancing drug.  Nicotine works by releasing feel-good chemicals (called endorphins) in the brain awakening the reward pathway.  When you quit smoking, you lose not only this chemically induced happiness, but the behaviors, habits and associations you’ve also created with cigarettes as a “friend,” stress relief, a crutch, and as a way to deal with a myriad of emotions. 

But smoking was never a way to cope with emotions. Smoking was a way to not deal with emotions.  Smoking cigarettes literally teaches smokers to mask emotions behind a smoke screen.  Freeing yourself from behind that smokescreen means learning new ways of handling emotions more effectively.  Studies show that in the long run, ex-smokers are actually happier than when they did smoke!

The road to feeling more in control of your emotions may very well start with acknowledging that, at least temporarily, your emotions are out of control.  Try reigning them back in with these suggestions:

  • Talk things out.  Call up a friend and vent.  Or consider finding a therapist.  If you don’t want to talk things out, then write them out in a journal, text message someone, or log into the Q and use the three post rule!
  • Increase endorphins, naturally. Doing things you enjoy naturally releases endorphins: exercising, gardening, spending time with friends, working on a hobby, and playing an instrument or sport.  It’s hard to be upset or sad when you’re doing something you love!
  • Take a breather. Step outside and take some deep breaths.  Inhale slowly through the nose and out the mouth, counting to 10 each time.   Go for a brisk walk or bike ride.  Exercising outdoors has been shown to improve mood!
  • Use rote responses.  These are mantras you repeatedly chant to yourself:  One day at a time.  This too shall pass.  Just BREATHE! 
  • Ask your doctor about medications.  Some quit smoking medications can help minimize withdrawal symptoms (like irritability and mood swings) while others have anti-depressant or anti-anxiety properties (Bupropion).  Some herbal remedies like St. John’s Wort show promise in alleviating mild depression, anxiety and sleep disorders.

Learning new ways to cope with emotions takes time and practice.  You may not feel like yourself again for days, weeks or even months after quitting.  While the emotional roller coaster won’t come to an abrupt stop, the bumps and dips do eventually even out.  Hang in there!

Liane

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Comments

I can definitely relate to the emotional roller coaster. My feelings have been all over the map since I quit 10 days ago. I thought for a while that I was just a freak going through all of this unexplained emotion alone. I hope it levels out.
Posted @ Friday, September 21, 2012 9:50 AM by krista
I can definitely relate to the emotional roller coaster. My feelings have been all over the map since I quit 10 days ago. I thought for a while that I was just a freak going through all of this unexplained emotion alone. I hope it levels out.
Posted @ Friday, September 21, 2012 9:51 AM by krista
I had lost two loved ones to a unexpected death in a 3 yr. time. Got so scared, went to a doctor to get help with quitting. She told me not to quit yet. I was such a mess, I didn't know why she didn't want me to quit yet and began my cold turkey. Let me tell you, that was the worst thing I went through. To get through it, I slept and drank water for a week! I had to sleep to get through the depression & anxiety attacks that made me think I was having a heart attack. I couldn't call anyone for help due to not having insurance, so I chose to lie in bed so that if I died, I wouldn't fall on the floor. That's how bad it was. I would never suggest anyone going cold turkey. Once I had started it though, I didn't know which way to go anymore and couldn't stop for fear that I would bring on the Heart attack also.. damned if I did and damned if I didn't. I made it! I'll never go back after all I went though, out of fear alone, wouldn't want to go through that again.
Posted @ Friday, September 21, 2012 10:54 PM by Linda
I quit for 7 months, then started back I was so depressed and unhappy when I quit, how do I overcome this mental challenge so I can quit again and not fail? any help will be appreciated thank you
Posted @ Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:05 PM by JoAnn Hagen
I am just started to quit smoking..this is day 1 and i dunno if i can even count it as day 1 cause i did have 2 smokes this morning but i am already going insane..it seems anything wrong triggers me to just start crying and i get so mad for no reason...i dunno if i can do this
Posted @ Friday, December 06, 2013 4:09 PM by Melinda
I quit 5 months ago and it hasn't been easy, but its getting easier. I don't have much physical craving for smoking anymore and frankly don't think about it as much, but the emotional flip flop is still going on. I find that old emotional problems are resurfacing sometimes very ferociously and I just have to wait for the feeling to subside in order to get a handle on it. I'm guessing that these are the issues that I was trying to squash or ignore with smoking. Before when I would get emotionally upset I would smoke or drink, now I just have to bear it out. Exercise helps. Deep breathing when I can't sleep helps. Walking to work helps. Taking care of my house and staying organized helps. Everyday I feel like I'm doing a bit better, and I know I am, but some days it doesn't feel like that - it feels like one step forward and one step back. I keep rehashing things over in my head - rumination is really exhausting. I may go see a therapist to help. In any case, I know that giving up crutches is the right thing to do and I will be much, much better in the long run. One thing in a time.
Posted @ Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:27 PM by Kathleen
I've been going through a terrible time lately. I quit smoking at the end of January but was on the patch until about 4 days ago and since then I have not been able to sleep and I have re-hashed and re-lived everything wrong I've ever done in my life and believe me, it's exhausting. I thought I was literally losing mind and was honestly afraid to be by myself because it seemed like I was losing it so I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in this process and I'm learning how to deal with this stress but I'm thinking about seeking professional help. It doesn't help that I'm in my last semester of grad school either but I'm committed to quitting and I don't think I could make it through this roller coaster again. Anyways I just wanted to thank you people for showing me that I was not losing my mind. Thank you.
Posted @ Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:01 AM by Matt
I quit 16 months ago after smoking for 30 years. Yes it's hard. Yes I am emotional. Yes I feel better. Every day it does get easier. I can stand next to a smoker and not crave now, but I now know what I smelled like. What I do know is I take one day at a time.
Posted @ Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:29 PM by Ron
I'm on day 11 today using the patch and medication and today has been very emotional I'm in a sad mood wanting to eat everything I've been through withdraw from drugs but its compared to quiting smoking when does it go away
Posted @ Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:34 PM by kelly
I have stopped smoking for 17 days. Felt good at fist but now really struggling. My emotions are all over the place. Ugh
Posted @ Tuesday, May 06, 2014 8:11 PM by gloria
Man its hard for me too. I'm on day 16 and I'm committed to quitting. I don't want to smoke again. I don't even have the urge to. But I'm having a hard time being separated from a loved one and I'm constantly worrying about them and the future because we are talking about marriage. I'm having doubts now and I can't sleep and I feel hungry but I can't eat. My heart sometimes feels like it going to beat out of my chest and I feel nauseous in my stomach .I'm also paranoid. I can't tell if these issues I'm having are because of me or because of quitting. This is so hard... Even now it's 1:21am in the morning and I can't sleep. I have a bad dream and I'm up... This is hard.
Posted @ Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:23 AM by Al
I had my last cig on March 25th. The first few weeks were hell. I didn't think I could make it. I am happy to report I am staying strong and taking I day at a time.
Posted @ Tuesday, June 03, 2014 11:46 PM by Kim
I quit, cold turkey. Im on day 4, and its not easy. Looking back to when I had my last cigarette to this point feel so hazy and dream like. I used to smoke a pack a day, mostly during work. Day two was so hard I felt on edge of insainity,I felt as if I was hallucinating. Day three was a strugle full of stress and fay four seems alot easier but with sudden flashes of cravings that make my body feel weird for not having the cigarette... idk
Posted @ Saturday, June 07, 2014 11:53 PM by Alex
I am on day 1. Feels like I lost my best friend. It was the only thing that was ever there for me consistently and I could count on. Such stupid reasoning I know. Feeling weepy, sad and yet proud of myself, one minute at a time.
Posted @ Saturday, June 21, 2014 2:38 PM by Janet
I am laughing and almost crying reading some of the comments here, so similar. What a terrible drug, thank god we quit.
Posted @ Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:09 PM by Jasmine
It's now a little over a month since I quit.I have been through a lot in my life , but nothing this hard. I am a mother of two toddlers 10 months apart and a 9 year old . I am so emotional and unhappy . The hardest part for me is to find ways to deal with my stress cause I can't just walk away when there driving me crazy . I'm committed to stay smoke free. I hope I just don't loose my mind in the mean time . A month smoke free seems like forever.
Posted @ Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:01 PM by megen
Good to read comments like these when I'm going through a low, rough patch - supportive simply to know I'm not alone. It's been 10 days now, a lot of highs and lows in that time, feeling 'out if it' and fuzzy - headed. I remind myself that I've just got to ride out the rough patches, they pass. And remember how great it is to be free, no longer a slave to such a horrible addiction.
Posted @ Wednesday, July 16, 2014 1:09 PM by Matthew
Hi, I quit smoking 2 days ago. Doing cold Turkey, and I can tell you it's driving me mad. I'm just not with it at all dizzy aggitated. Chest pains. I was quite a heavy smoker a pack a day 20 for the past 30 years. I agree you realise how much you stink standing next to a Smoker. And the feeling of waking up in the morning without that Elephant sitting on your chest makes it worth it. One day at a time.
Posted @ Sunday, July 20, 2014 4:44 PM by Ed Winchester
Finding this site so helpful. Quit cold turkey 7 weeks ago, do so well first month and so proud of myself. Past few weeks feeling these cravings at "trigger times". Coming home from work, cooking dinner. Find I just burst into tears. Feel so silly and wish this too shall pass.
Posted @ Friday, July 25, 2014 6:02 PM by Julie
Help!!! Day one and I'm snapping. I WILL NOT smoke but how many days like this? I Will not smoke!!!
Posted @ Monday, August 11, 2014 5:31 PM by MIRELLA
It's been 3 weeks since I quit cold turkey! I Smoked for nearly 30 years, better than a pack a day for most of that (saying that sucks on so many levels). And I can honestly say that this is the hardest thing that I have ever done! I have passed the foggy haze of days 1-3 and the let's eat the damn house after that. I am now in a spot where my cravings are very strong, I get angry fast and have 0 patience. I'm trying to work on that. Like everyone else I'm just taking it one day at a time And not caving to temptation, knowing that I'm better for it. I don't know if the emotional roller coaster will ever level off, I'm not there yet. But the alternative of smoking myself into an early grave is a lot less appealing!! So to all that have just got on the quit ride hold on tight and don't give up. Best of luck to all!!
Posted @ Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:33 PM by Greg
I quit yesterday at 5:30pm. Had my last cig and put on the patch. I'm sitting in the car crying!!. I'm @ my fav. coffee place where I enjoyed my coffee with my "friend"-cigs. I feel lost and I'm going back and forth with the crying & emotions!. God help me.
Posted @ Friday, August 22, 2014 1:41 PM by Carrie
Believe me it does get easier . It's been almost 3 months now and I am starting to be ok with out my old friend cigs.i still miss smoking because I enjoyed it . But it's great to not feel addicted to something.
Posted @ Friday, August 22, 2014 6:54 PM by megen
Hi I have quite fro 3 month , my last day was jun 1, and i am felliung anger, get tempered in samll things,  
I si common or should i start smking again.can someone please reply
Posted @ Monday, September 01, 2014 9:19 PM by Nik
Hi,it makes me laugh hearing these stories.Im in australia i am day 6 of quitting smoking.This is my 7th attempt. Yes exercise,water, deep breathe,dark chocolate.The seratonin levels will even out eventually.My strategy this time is too not make a big deal out of it, and learn to deal with the emotions that the smoking has masked for 25years.I don't want to smell like that any more, and i hope that this time i can make it further,if not never go back to smoking. This time i need to beat my record of 25 days. Ohhh just being aware of them crazy moments. :)))
Posted @ Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:12 PM by tracey
Three weeks since I quit, and I had a major panic attack about 3 hours ago and my heart is still racing...I do not crave a cig, but the anxiety and panic feeling I don't like at all. All I do is think of bad thoughts and bad things I have done and anxiety gets worse lol. Wtf! Ah well, just gotta ride it out I guess. Good to hear that it's not only me experiencing this.
Posted @ Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:00 PM by Cyguy
Cyguy I have been of a month now cold turkey and I am going through the exact same withdrawal symptoms as yourself anxiety mind raceing panic feelings it's so scary It effects your everyday life so much
Posted @ Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:50 PM by Rodney
I have been off cigarettes for 2 months. 
I quit cold turkey and am going crazy!!! 
The first week and a half was terrible but then I felt really great for the next 3 weeks but the last 3 weeks have been hell. I can't explain what I'm going thru. At first I thought I was depressed because of work( its a crap j
Posted @ Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:36 AM by Chris
Cont'd....crap job. 
I almost quit my job because it's what I thought was causing me depression and anxiety. How wrong I was!!! 
When I quit smoking I was told that withdrawals would last a couple of days and that nicotine would be out of my system and then life would be rosy....yeah right!!!  
I am 2 months in and I am stressed ,depression, anxious and very, very, emotional. I feel like crying all the time and it is affecting everything in my life.  
As much as it six what I'm going thru and as bad as it may sound I am so glad that I'm not the only
Posted @ Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:42 AM by Chris
Oh Thank God, I thought I was going crazy...I am about to hit the 6 month mark of quitting, and I and happy and proud of myself, but I sincerely thought there was something wrong with me that I was getting so emotional so often. The fact is that cigarettes were just another way to hide an emotion and it almost feel as though I am grieving for a friend that is no longer there. This last month I have had so many ups and downs I seriously thought I needed to go to the psych ward at one of the hospitals close by, thinking there was a diagnosis that had been lying dormant all this time. I am glad that something sparked to google this, truly I needed to know that I was not the only one out there.
Posted @ Thursday, October 02, 2014 8:10 PM by Charity
I'm on my fourth day of quitting I'm 42 and have been smoking since I was 12. I'm an emotional wreck. Thought it was just me. Burst into tears for no apparent reason. Finding thgr site has helped.
Posted @ Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:29 PM by Maria
Hi back again.i made it past my 6th day and have now quit for 34 days.Wow i am crying at the drop of a hat =, and do feel hungrier, though am very aware that smoking has been a part of my life for 25 years,so i have given the food the flick =,and i allow myself to have the emotions I'm having. Thank you nicorette, i could not do this without!!! Please if any one is feeling this bad please allow yourself to chew :)))
Posted @ Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:00 PM by Tracey Crockett
Well, what can I say, nearly 6 months quit for me and it's been hell! I have been thinking that there must be something physically wrong with me as I am either angry, or crying, these seem the only emotions I am capable of feeling other than occasionally looking at other people and wishing I felt as happy as they seem.  
 
It's nice to realise that in fact I'm not losing my mind and there are others that feel like I do. It's also reassuring to know it will get better, when I really don't know but I do know that I cannot go back to smoking as I could NEVER go through, or put my family and friends this hell again. Smoking is evil, you only have to read these comments to see what this horrid drug has done to all of us. Well done everyone
Posted @ Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:16 AM by Trudi
Well, here I go! I've smoked a pack a day for 25 years. I'm 44 and I feel like total crap. Constant headaches, sinus problems, get winded after minimal exertion etc etc etc....Everytime I quit, I feel like I am insane. I am committed to quitting because I'm scared of dying in front of my kids. I'm on day two now. There's no other way for me but cold turkey. Glad to find similar experiences. I'll post again when I'm out a little further!
Posted @ Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:40 PM by Holly
O thank god! Thought i was going insane!Third week in after being a twenty a day person for 30 years (i'm 42). Now that I know its nicotine withdrawal I can handle tha emotions better
Posted @ Monday, October 20, 2014 8:38 AM by maria
Well. I was a Pack a day for ten years kinda gal. I stopped smoking a month ago, but for first 2, 3 weeks I let myself one or two ciggarets a day if I absolutely had to... It was tolerable... Now, first week totally off everything and I'm so easy to burst into tears, I have urges of hitting anyone or anything that angers me and my chest are hurting when I'm sad... Also, I'm coughing like insane, and things that came out of there are unspeakable... God, when will it stop?! :(
Posted @ Monday, October 20, 2014 9:17 AM by Sabina
Hi I decided to give up cigs and am on day 32 ! I am proud of myself but I am so glad I found this post as I have never felt so down and upset in the first two weeks everything I had ever done wrong came back and whatever I had blocked from my mind came back to haunt me:( I thought I was going crazy I now have done something once a week for me;) am getting depressed and feeling low but getting there
Posted @ Monday, October 27, 2014 4:51 AM by Georgina
I am on day 30. I am proud of myself, too but the sadness is driving me insane. Losing the reward of the cigarette after certain difficult times of day is what is most difficult. I have got to try some of the anti depression activities such as exercise, self talk, mediation that everyone recommends. Good luck everyone.
Posted @ Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:45 PM by Susan
Hi I stopped smoking on September 26th 2014. I have been doing good so far and I am on the patches and sucking on lolly pops galore. 
 
Well the past 2 weeks off and on I just want to pound everything in sight. I almost tore my car radio apart and out of the dash cause it was not receiving signals(been having a hard time with the radio). I pretty much destroyed the screen on the radio cause of punching it a few times(my hand hurts now lol) 
 
Every little frakking thing is setting me off it seems. 
 
I won't hurt anyone just my stuff and my self(not suicide),just hitting my self in the head or punching a wall or a refrigerator.  
 
I also notice I am becoming a dick cause of my attitude :( 
 
I came so close to flipping out on my father yesterday cause of some stupid thing he said. (not physical just yelling). 
 
Well this is reason I really didn't not want to stop cause I get mean,its like I have a second personality when I don't smoke :( I don't like it this side of me,I don't like it!! :( :( (cry). 
 
I really wish these stupid urges and emotions would go away!!!  
 
I wish I was Vulcan lol.
Posted @ Sunday, November 02, 2014 10:23 AM by James Barrek
Hi I am on my 11th day, the 9th day was the worse for me so far but I didn't give in I just went on walks and kept so busy for the day, I haven't been emotional yet but have had physical problems like stomach cramps, headaches, nausea how long does this last it's driving me insane feeling so rough, oh and I'm really tired to 😪
Posted @ Monday, November 03, 2014 6:26 AM by Rebecca
FEELING mad and angry about everything, snapped at my mom over nothing. skin feels so dry feel so sad, reading these really helped that it is normal. on day two of quitting after 34years of smoking. i hate the smell of smoking and flem i cough out. i think i should get out to get some air
Posted @ Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:43 AM by pregnant woman
So glad I found this website. I am crying and I mean sobbing over a leaf falling off a tree. You know what I mean. It is day 40, no cravings but the emotions. Dr says I should be over withdrawal by now. How wrong, how wrong. My daughter and her family are moving far away and I am over upset about it. Don't want to go back on depression meds. Don't want to go back to alcohol. Going to start a therapist on Monday. Got an appt. that is 4 days from now. Can't even get myself out of the house to go to the gym. Wont walk outside as it is raining. Is it worth it not to smoke?
Posted @ Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:29 PM by Caroline
Take my advice do not go back to smoking it's not worth it in the long run. I have been of 9 weeks and I have went through exactly the same symptoms as what you have anxiety depression crying for no reason wont leave the house etc and I am still going through it now stick at we are all here for you Caroline
Posted @ Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:50 PM by Rodney
These comments make me feel so much better .. Day 1 of cold turkey over here and up until this evening I was doing just fine . I preferred smoking more in the evening , now I'm crying and laughing at the same time .. No real appetite been forcing myself to eat ... I gave up drinking last year and I have to say nicotine is worse !! Good luck everyone
Posted @ Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:09 PM by Michelle
2 weeks today. I went cold turkey. Read Allen C book Easy Way to Quit Smoking. Withdrawal is better every day but I was super grumpy day 4-11. Got through not with willpower but by reminding myself all the reasons I smoked were bulls hit and all the reasons to quit were valid. And I feel so much better physically (dizziness maim issue) and the high from adding 1 more day to my quit tally is great too. Plus I am itching to get moving. Yoga I think! Let it be the start of something wonderful. Coz it is the end of something that genuinely sucked the life out of you. Celebrate.  
Posted @ Sunday, November 16, 2014 9:33 AM by Carol Duermit
I feel everyone's pain here. I've tried quitting using every method (gum, patch, e-cigs, etc.) but I finally just said forget it and I've been smoke free for 18 days COLD TURKEY. I can honestly tell you this is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Just when I think that I'm over the cravings, they'll come flooding back in. I've sat by my car wanting to pick up a pack so bad, but I'm fighting with everything I have to not do it. I'm in the same boat as all of you... This is difficult and most times I question if it's the right thing to do (even though I know it's horrible for me). I hope that the cravings will be done soon and I hope that all of you keep up the commitment to quit! Unless you're a smoker, you don't know how hard it is to quit... That's why you are all my heros for trying to stop!!! You got this!!
Posted @ Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:13 PM by Sean
I have been of smoking 12 weeks past on Monday sean cold turkey I have went through hell and more with nicotine withdrawal anxiety and raceing thoughts and depression probably the worst but I sill having give in and my family life has been hell been a grump all the time to the point is it even worth it anymore will I stick at in the long run I dont know but for now I am smoke free
Posted @ Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:55 PM by Rodney
Today is day 17 - after 30 yrs of smoking a pack a day, I've quit -- I'm using about half the recommended lozenges. I don't have a desire to smoke, but suddenly --- I'm ready to rip someone's head off ... anybody's head will do! My thinking has been fuzzy but I'm sleeping pretty well - I feel tired almost all the time. This site helps a lot -- thanks to reading the entities, I know I'm not crazy ... and I know I'm not alone.
Posted @ Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:06 AM by Pat
Quit 7 months ago. 20 pack/day. 25 year history. I'm 37. Side effects STILL include eye infections, depression (inc bad mood swings), restless leg syndrome, migraine, insomnia, constipation, weight gain...i DON'T crave nicotine anymore. I would love to get my life back before i quit....but without the ciggies.
Posted @ Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:19 PM by gina
A week today . .never knew it would make me feel so low...this morning I got up and just cried. And am up and down like a yo yo... Just makes me feel better that I'm not going crazy after all thank you
Posted @ Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:03 AM by Gina
Thank you all for sharing your stories. All the feelings are overwhelming me. 36 years of smoking- usually a pack a day. I'm 52 and have a 14 year old son. This is at least my 8th quit, and my final one. 
I cried this morning and expect to wind up with diabetes from all the sugar.
Posted @ Sunday, December 07, 2014 8:01 AM by Leigh
On day 43 here. Just wanted to add my bit. Been taking bupropion since day 1 and the physical cravings were not even noticeable. Easy enough to quit because I had abdominal surgery. I think last night I finally realized that I was truly an emotional train wreck this whole time. Have been dealing with past emotional trauma. I sulked for about a week over a break up that happened 7 years ago!!! I'm so happy to find I'm not alone in this and I can actually look forward now. Realizing that I now have to learn to deal with my emotions without the help of a drug has made such a huge difference instead of just thinking that I'm a complete psychopath. After visiting the doctor last night I will start weening off of the bupropion starting today. Hold on tight everyone, I'm pretty sure roller coaster is an understatement!
Posted @ Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:50 AM by Jared
I quit smoking Aug 31 of this year after 32 years of smoking. I was crying for no apparent reason all the time. My doc put me on wellbruitin. Took a while but is helping somewhat. Also have terrible anxiety about my breathing. I feel myself breathing in all the time. Never experienced while I smoked. Doc says will go away. Never thought it would be this hard and I hate taking meds but I don't think I could smdo without. Has anyone else ever experienced different breathing since quitting?
Posted @ Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:21 PM by Becca
Anyone having severe breathing anxiety. About 14 weeks ago and since have been obsessed with my breathing . it just feels different. Not short of breath just different. Dic says anxiety? Anyone else? Smoked for 32 years m
Posted @ Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:30 PM by becca
Becca, I quit 3 months ago. male smoker 30yrs. In that time. Ive been to emergency room twice feeling like I was having heart attack. blood work ,EKG all normal. My most recent thing. I actually went to a cardiologist because like you my breathing feels very weird also sometimes. I get to focused on it the shallow breathing and then it starts to freak me out then that leads to the anxiety. Anyway heart test normal, stress test normal. I was also told its anxiety and my doctor put me on something temp to help me thru this and it has helped. Not saying you should. I wish you luck and we did the best thing for our body we could do for it. I'm also liking having the extra 150 dollars a month in my pocket lol
Posted @ Wednesday, December 17, 2014 4:42 AM by Bill
I quit cold turkey on aug 1 after 30 yrs of smoking 1-2 packs a day for most of it. The emotions for me have tapered down, which is nice. I have put on weiget which I will deal with next year. Like some of the others breathing is wierd,kind of tight, like not getting enough oxygen, had labs done, all good, must just be body adjusting to lack of carcinogens. All in all I'm very glad and proud of myself for quitting. So from someone 4 1/2 months in, keep up the good work, take it day by day and know your better for it. YOU CAN DO IT
Posted @ Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:31 PM by Greg
Greg, Congrats and yes we can do it we are doing it. I'm 3months in. Ive heard it can take 6-12months to feel normal again. Lets fn hope so because this sucks.
Posted @ Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:56 PM by Bill
Hi, thanks to all who have shared their experiences in giving up! I have just passed 3 months, I saw my Dr and she put me on Zyban, but it made me so very ill. So stopped that, but it gave me such a fright of being ill on that Zyban that I told her I would continue with no tablets. I used to smoke about 25 cigs a day, but for some reason only ever smoked half the cigarette every time. I have smoked for 25 years, and the Dr was surprised that I showed no symptoms from smoking, my lungs sound clear and she even said that she had never smelt smoke on me. But I always had my own rules, never smoked in my car or in my house, I would go out on the Patio. I reckon that's why I smoked quickly, and never finished a smoke. She said I possibly did not even draw back fully. This however has not made it any easier to quit, I enjoyed smoking! But the cost is now enormous in Australia, so I set a goal ..... I am going overseas next year, and I am going to buy a designer bag! Friends laughed at me, saying, you did not give up for your health but rather a Chanel Handbag! Well, I hadn't yet got symptoms from it. My main concern was not to put on weight, my Dr said you do not have to, just watch that you don't replace smoking with food. I do miss it, being a business woman, I often would step outside to 'think' a minute with a cigarette. But it became so sociably unacceptable that it has made it easier. During stressful times with my business, I could have eaten a packet, but now I just breath air through my mouth like I am smoking, silly, but works for me. I don't think about it as much now, but I do think about it during a day! Look forward to the day I don't think about it at all. Financially it has been amazing what I have saved, so the prize of a Chanel Handbag will be reached! I will never smoke again, no matter what! I have appreciated my Dr's help and it has been great having her to honestly talk to when it seemed tough. Reward yourself for giving up, because stopping this horrible addiction is a very real achievement!
Posted @ Saturday, December 20, 2014 5:10 AM by Leanne
Oh and on the last post I put up, I have not put on any weight in the 3 months, so this also does not have to happen!
Posted @ Saturday, December 20, 2014 5:15 AM by Leanne
I have quit several times and it was bad, but I always knew I could get a cigarette and I would go back to quitting. Well, now I know this was wrong. One cigarette and I am back to smoking. But that is all I want just one cigarette. Now I am not getting it, and it is just awful. I am grumpy and people hate me. I hate them too. I want to smoke, but I don't. This is ugly this smoking business. I mean quitting smoking. What a addiction. Day 20 today and I hate everything, everybody, and they hate me too. But I am going to stay smoke free.
Posted @ Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:05 AM by Ela Ganeva
I'm almost 4 months non smoking but I'm feeling horrible. Not as bad as in the beginning but i cant get over how crazy this makes you feel. I never had anything wrong with me when i smoked!!! Since Ive quit. Im on anxiety medication, Ive been to hospital 3 times and every test comes back normal. I need to complain but I also need to tell myself I smoked for 30years and I cant expect to feel normal in 4 months. Ok that's my rant for the day
Posted @ Saturday, December 27, 2014 9:20 PM by bill
I'm so glad I came across this site. I have smoked a pack aday for the last 15 years. I have been out of work since August due to a back injury. Well pretty much the last 25 weeks I've been just laying around due to the pain, still smoking of course. The last month or so I would get winded just walking to get my mail, maybe 100 feet. Realized then and there I was done. I have 2 boys 5 and 3 and would really like to see them grow up. So dec 15 I was done. After the first 3 days of sleep, not kidding slept non stop for 3 days. I got these weird chest pains after I had sex with my old lady. Didn't think to much about it, till hours later heart was still pounding. Almost like at any moment it was going to fly out of my chest. My wife was its just your anxiety. I do have anxiety. It can get pretty bad, started after I hurt my back initialy 4/24/13. Anyhow finally drove my self to the er, heart rate was 320bpm and bp was 179/110. It ended up dropping down to normal on its own but I was admitted to the hospital for 2 days to be sure. Everything came back normal "the tests" could this all been from anxiety??? Now a week later I'm constantly in fear, why I keep asking my self why am I acting this way. Could all these thing I'm experiencing be anxiety, or am I going crazy. That's what I was thinking. Today I was ready to have my self admitted to the crazy house. This blows, I mean really blows. I hate myself, mylife, I fight with everyone over nothing. Burst out in anger and emotion for no real reason. Now today just start crying, honestly really crying out of the blue for no reason. I hope this is all from the withdrawals from the non smoking. The only way I can do this is to do it cold turkey. Hope these emotions get better soon, or I'm afraid I might end up in the nut house
Posted @ Sunday, December 28, 2014 9:36 PM by Lynn I'm a male
I'm so glad I came across this site. I have smoked a pack aday for the last 15 years. I have been out of work since August due to a back injury. Well pretty much the last 25 weeks I've been just laying around due to the pain, still smoking of course. The last month or so I would get winded just walking to get my mail, maybe 100 feet. Realized then and there I was done. I have 2 boys 5 and 3 and would really like to see them grow up. So dec 15 I was done. After the first 3 days of sleep, not kidding slept non stop for 3 days. I got these weird chest pains after I had sex with my old lady. Didn't think to much about it, till hours later heart was still pounding. Almost like at any moment it was going to fly out of my chest. My wife was its just your anxiety. I do have anxiety. It can get pretty bad, started after I hurt my back initialy 4/24/13. Anyhow finally drove my self to the er, heart rate was 320bpm and bp was 179/110. It ended up dropping down to normal on its own but I was admitted to the hospital for 2 days to be sure. Everything came back normal "the tests" could this all been from anxiety??? Now a week later I'm constantly in fear, why I keep asking my self why am I acting this way. Could all these thing I'm experiencing be anxiety, or am I going crazy. That's what I was thinking. Today I was ready to have my self admitted to the crazy house. This blows, I mean really blows. I hate myself, mylife, I fight with everyone over nothing. Burst out in anger and emotion for no real reason. Now today just start crying, honestly really crying out of the blue for no reason. I hope this is all from the withdrawals from the non smoking. The only way I can do this is to do it cold turkey. Hope these emotions get better soon, or I'm afraid I might end up in the nut house
Posted @ Sunday, December 28, 2014 9:37 PM by Lynn I'm a male
I wish I had found this site when I quit smoking last year. I had a tooth pulled under general anesthesia (it was extremely abscessed) so I was to not smoke for several days afterward to avoid a dry socket. I decided that it would be a perfect time to quit and envisioned pure happiness and money in my pocket and not smelling bad anymore. Let me tell you that was the absolute hardest thing I have ever been through. I made it about a month. At first I didn't feel well but I thought I was having a drawn-out reaction to the anesthesia. Then I started coughing up tonsil stones and gross things from my lungs. Then I was constipated and so extremely depressed. I hated everyone and everthing and I felt outrageously angry. It would pass and I would pray to God it would be the last time I would have to feel like that. But of course it wasn't, and it seemed like it would last longer each time - I would just cry and cry and cry, wondering why doing something good for your body felt so terrible. I think I definitely quit at the wrong time - I had just gotten married and then we moved in with friends a month later while we were finding a place closer to work; they had kids and we didn't - adjusting to living with small children is not easy in itself! I was commuting to work and missed cigs all the time. Then on Thanksgiving weekend, my car broke down and I ended up in the ER with what felt like a heart attack, but it was just anxiety. It was so much to deal with all at once. I think I need to be able to afford a 6-month long vacation the next time I try to quit. I don't know that I can ever handle all of that madness again. I think another thing that I noticed was that all those people who begged for you to quit smoking or would make snide comments about how much better your life would be once you finally quit...once you do quit, there isn't a very long period where people congratulate you or remind you that you're doing something awesome - it is a very emotionally trying and personal time. I felt very alone and unless someone has been through it they just can't understand. I had no idea there were so many others out there who experienced the insane mood swings so strongly - I'm glad to know it wasn't just me. And I wish you all the best.
Posted @ Monday, December 29, 2014 4:20 PM by Ashley
The postings I've read really helped me today. I'm at 58 days & have literally felt as though I were going crazy. I guess not. The body and mind have been dependent for too long, 20+ years. One day at a time is what you have to do & take a lot of deep breaths. Enjoying fresh air a better body and a fatter wallet. Keep it up everyone! This is the one thing you want to be good at quitting!
Posted @ Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:52 PM by Roxanne
I must say I can't relate to a lot of these postings, especially about the anxiety and brain fog. I felt as if I were going g crazy too. I quit cold turkey on Aug 29 2014....overall I feel a lot better than I felt at first but its still one day at a time for me. Ppl say that I should be over this by now but then again those same ppl don't smoke. Glad to see so many people doing well with their quit and I'm continuing my fight as well.
Posted @ Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:05 PM by Jasmine
I have smoked for over 20 years in the last few months I have been drinking every other day and smoking more due to emotional stress. I talked to my DR and she put me on welbutrin and I now on day 5 of no smoking and no drinking. My body feels wonderful, but I am an emotional wreck. My husband chews alot and I wish he would support this and quit that with me. I never get asked how are you doing today? It is like noone cares to even be concerned. It doesn't matter how hard this is and how good it is all at once. I don't know what to do. I love being smoke free and alcohol free..I just wish I had the support of my family. I am so sad I cry all the time. when will this end?
Posted @ Monday, January 05, 2015 12:09 PM by Tina
My update. Made it thru NYE without having a cig while I was out drinking. So I'm proud of that.Like in my other posts I'm 4 months in and its still day by day. But eventually it has to come to an end when my body is fully recovered from all the junk Ive put into it for 30years! Stay strong everybody
Posted @ Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:24 PM by bill
I feel like crap! everything sets me off,and my stomach hurts in the morning...this freaking sucks, and I have been off smokes for the past week, and even then I still smoke a cig at work...I have been a smoker since i was 17, and am now 32...I hate how I feel right now. i used to be the kind of person that could help people with my ability to put things in perspectives...now all i do is freaking loop about shit that pisses me off...it doesnt even have to be a big deal...I hate my self right now, and cant wait to feel better! Reading everyone's story's makes me feel better. I thought it would be easier then this since I have kicked other habits before, but this is the worse...Sorry about all the belly aching i need to get it back together. Thanks for posting guys it really helps.
Posted @ Friday, January 16, 2015 9:22 AM by Patrick
Today is day 80. Wanted to post because it may help someone else along with the struggle and also help me to write it down. Having a MAJOR rage fit this morning. A bunch small and meaningless things set it off (i.e. dropping a carrot on the floor). I downed an extra cup of coffee and binged on some stupid internet humor. Feeling a bit better overall but am still on edge. All I could think about for these first 5 hours I've been awake is how badly I just wanted to smoke. I know even if I would have smoked I wouldn't be feeling any better. I'm like 99% sure I would be feeling much worse physically and 100% I would be feeling worse emotionally knowing that I broke down just for a bad mood. It's been a few weeks since I had one of these insane fits, they are becoming less frequent which is good. Here's to not giving in, even when you are mad to the point where you cry because you dropped a carrot!
Posted @ Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:59 AM by Jared
i quit COLD TURKEY on the 7th jan 2015 and to this day still not had a FAG not going to lie its been hard as hell but i tell my self i am doing this mot just for me but for my 4 beautiful children, and i am now addicted to xtra strong MINTS everytime i feel the urge for a FAG i stick a MINT in my MOUTH and its helps me loads, so not saying this could help everybody but its worth a try. good luck to all trying to quit think positive and you will get through it
Posted @ Friday, January 23, 2015 3:41 AM by katie johnson
5 months and tobacco free!!!I am 57 and a 35 year smoker.It is such a bad habit that I quit so I can see my grandsons grow up.It does take a long time for our bodies to adapt,I still suffer from anxiety and a bit of depression.Hang in there all, time will mend our ails. SOMEDAY I hope.
Posted @ Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:21 AM by tim
I'm on week 5, first four week on patches, then 3 days cold, no major surprises, the usual cravings. Then the totally unexpected anger and RAGE !!!!!! Good advise from previous post.... one day at a time. But no way i'm going through all this for nothing.  
Posted @ Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:07 AM by Bill Clifford
IM THINKING OF GOING BACK!!!! 
its been two months! i dont crave it even when someone smokes around me - but i have the urge to break their jaw!!! ive been snapping at random strangers - im afraid i will hurt someone n go to jail.  
ive also been drinking a lot in private. 
my wife nows calls me bipolar.  
after reading these post, i see some of u are still feeling this even after 6 months - i dont think i can last that long...
Posted @ Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:02 AM by schaun
-schaun- 
Try to get your wife on board with you. See if she will support you. It gets REALLY hard. I started back up last time I quit because I was afraid of getting fired from my job! Chew gum, chug coffee, naw on carrots, SEE A DOCTOR! My smoking cessation, including drugs, was completely covered by my insurance through the CVS Pharmacy Minute Clinic. Don't give up just yet! Stay strong!!!!!
Posted @ Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:32 AM by Jared
Smoked for the last 47 years - I'm now 62. Made a deal with my middle son that if he gave up (he's 34) I would'nt smoke again in front of him or his kids again. Trouble is he runs a pub that I go to every night early doors to have a couple of beers and meet my mates. I sleep 7 or so hours per night and have been in situations where I am unable to smoke for days & weeks - no problem. But I cannot handle no smokes for a couple of hours in the pub! My body goes into some sort of meltdown - muscles tense up, brain goes on some sort of trip & I start getting physical (friendly) with people in the bar. It's crazy! There must be a reason for this & therefore a clue on how to condition the brain/mind to give up!
Posted @ Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:21 PM by Rich
-Jared- 
thanks. my wife is supported. shes taking a lot of shit from me. i feel terrible. i have an appt tomorrow to see a doctor (psychiatrist). hopefully he can help:/
Posted @ Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:52 PM by schaun
I guys, good thing i've found this site. 
i'm 35 and it's my fourth day, and i'm going crazy, i have smoked for the past 20 years, i've quit before for 2 years but i've never felt like this. 
I will never go back again no mather what, i don't want to go through this again. Sorry about my english i'm Portuguese.
Posted @ Monday, February 02, 2015 6:56 AM by Hugo
Holy shit guys.. I quite 32 days ago.. and well its been quite some ride.. i can say that i still feel some sort of weird grieving depression.. i also wake up really early every morning like 5-6.. its like im oversensitive to any sounds so i wake up immediately (which sucks).. I actually considering getting some smokes just to see if it this mellows out.. damn this sucks..
Posted @ Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:01 PM by Alex
I am 27 years old been smoking since I was 15..... This is my 37th day cold turkey... I don't drink not do I have bad eating habits never really have. So I thought I would kick the worst habit of all before It got too far. I haven't had a craving for an actual ciggarette but I have been a harlequin with my emotion. My head is spinning a million miles a minute, so many thoughts all different upset happy you name it. Bad dreams broken sleep, my boyfriend almost broke up with me. It's hellish. I understand that smoking has masked my emotions for some time now, and this is me normal. Which doesn't sound nice and makes me think I am a raging nasty person, but it's not true. What we are feeling is enhancements of senses and emotions. The chemicals in our brains are altering and adjusting and the poison is coming out of our bodies. We are really really strong making it through this. So people just try and support yourselves and get support from where ever you can. Xxxx we can beat this !!!
Posted @ Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:26 PM by Em
Oh my word! Soooooooo pleased I found this site tonight! I too thought I was going insane/to loose my mind/be committed in local Mental Health Unit/be arrested for assault.. I could go on but will stop now!  
I am 1 month Cold Turkey.. I am 48 & have smoked since I was 15. I have managed to give up a number of times but have always gone back - NEVER AGAIN!! It's absolute HELL but I am determined to crack this. I LOVE being a non-smoker.. I am so proud, as it must be one of the hardest addictions to give up without nicotine replacement. I say this but have ALL the nasty stuff going on that everyone else has. The last couple of days feel worse than my first couple of days!! What I will say is that I keep in mind alsways that I am FREE & that's really important. I know friends/family that have given up (my Dad being one of them - he gave up Cold Turkey 20 years ago, after smoking 60 a day!!) & they have all said it DOES get easier. I wanted to be totally free by now but realistically I know that's not going to happen!! It's such a massive addiction that it's going to take longer than a month to be completely free. That's logical really. These 'bad' days are tough but we are all doing this together & we are amazing. If we smash a few pots, so what? It'll be soooooo worth it in the long run. One friend of mine says that after giving up 2 years ago, she is now over the complete insanity of smoking & doesn't even think about it. That's exactly where I want to be & where I'm going.. no-matter what!!  
You have to change your thinking... amoking was NEVER good for anyone. It's a poison, it stops you from feeling emotions & it brainwashes you into believing that you NEED nicotine to survive!! Rubbish! You need food & water to survive.. Nicotine is a drug & is ficticious - it's not required. The 'bad' days will become less & the emotions will settle. It will take time, so be prepared for a wait but eventually we will all make it. Happy Days :)
Posted @ Sunday, February 08, 2015 6:48 PM by Debs
34 days today without one time falling back on nicotine. i quit for 20 years took 1 time and hooked for another 9. i will not go back to the dragon again.....
Posted @ Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:56 PM by rick
Gave up smoking cold turkey Monday just gone, feel a little upset, but just trying to keep myself busy.. Feel like I already have more energy. Hope I make it, no going back now.
Posted @ Thursday, February 19, 2015 5:04 PM by Julia
Like everyone else, soooo pleased to have found this page. All I have found on the internet until now is annoying timetables of health benefits or bright and breezy assurances that most symptoms will be over in three weeks. I'm eight weeks into giving up a 35 year habit and I am so so so miserable. It has been incredibly helpful to read that other people have experienced similar - allowing me to stand back from my misery and look at it as a symptom and not an intrinsic part of my life. Thanks to all. Here's hoping things improve for all of us soon.
Posted @ Monday, February 23, 2015 9:56 AM by Fiona Levitt
Thanks all for sharing your experiences as i really did think I was goin nuts! im 50 days off the cigs and on sunday i had a review of performance in my work! I went from anger to tears in it and goodness knows wot my boss thought lol! This is my 3rd time quittin as I usually go back with a stresser but came through a few since off them and through will power I have not restarted! The cravings for one have lessened with days but emotions still a rollercoaster hope this improves! To all thats stopped let us all keep off them! thank you site/blog
Posted @ Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:27 PM by Aileen
Thanks all for sharing your experiences as i really did think I was goin nuts! im 50 days off the cigs and on sunday i had a review of performance in my work! I went from anger to tears in it and goodness knows wot my boss thought lol! This is my 3rd time quittin as I usually go back with a stresser but came through a few since off them and through will power I have not restarted! The cravings for one have lessened with days but emotions still a rollercoaster hope this improves! To all thats stopped let us all keep off them! thank you site/blog
Posted @ Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:29 PM by Aileen
I was really concerned that it was only me that is loosing my mind due to nicotine withdrawals but thanks to this site, I feel a bit better. I guess it is true that misery loves company. I quit smoking a year and half ago after more than 20 years of 20 a day habit and replaced my smoking addiction by a form of Swedish smokeless tobacco called Snus. It is readily available in Scandinavia where I live. Even though, I didn't smoke for quiet a long time, I was still addicted to nicotine. I started experiencing panic attacks and heart palpitations due to the high level of nicotine in that form of smokeless tobacco. I decided to finally stop using Nicotine all together 10 days ago. Now, I am an emotional mess. I feel angry, scared, hopeless, guilty and I see nothing but the worst in everybody I meet. All the activities that I used to love, I now hate so much. I used to love my work (I just started a PhD in infectious disease). Now, I can't think properly and I make mistakes. I am starting to think that years of nicotine use has changed my brain neuronal connections. I hope and pray that these brain abnormalities are reversible. Anyway, thank you all for sharing your thoughts and feelings. Lets get through this together. Greetings from Norway. H.I.
Posted @ Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:34 PM by H.I.
I found this site in desperate search of what was wrong with me... seems to be the theme here. I'm 38, picked up smoking in 6th grade? I'll say I've smoked for 25 years varying amounts. When I partied I smoked a pack or more and for the past year it's been 10 or 11 a day. I quit drinking and have been sober since 2011. I (over the past year) got my coffee from 2 large iced Dunks coffees a day to one hot 12 ounce cup in the morning.. black with coconut oil. So I had dental surgery to make me prettier :) on 2/12/2015 and had just enough butts to get me to the surgery. I had some gum... so I thought that it's time. I've quit before in the past (1st time hypnotist, 2nd time wellbutrine, 3rd time mixture of both) with it ending in a psychotic break by day 6. I ended up doing it cold turkey after 20 hours on the gum... why detox twice. I did some acupuncture on day 5 when I started to feel really weak(holiday weekend no work for 5 days). I proceeded to have a very easy quit week. I was sad that I lost my friend but I wasn't losing my shit or being mean or crazy. Co-workers that knew where in shock and thought I was on drugs. I pushed through the morning craving, walked through the lunch craving and ate through my evening (biggest) craving... and then BLAMMO lost my sh*t... exactly at the 2 weeks mark. I head a migraine for 2 days (never get headaches), stomach aches, constipation... it's all withdrawal. It took me 3 years of not drinking to not think about it and I had butts to smoke... So I know this is going to take sometime. I'm giving up sugar, like with giving up alcohol.. sugar makes the cravings worse. So I'm cleaning up my diet and will start some sort of workout to burn off all this crabby apple pants. I'm sore (body aches), I'm exhausted after 8+ hours of sleep a night... I haven't coughed at all but my sinus are on fire. I thought once you made it to 3 weeks you were in the clear... after these past two days I realize everybody is different and I need to get active and burn some energy. If I can quit drinking... I can quit smoking. And like drinking... I don't ever want to do this all over again. I've come too far. I just wish I could feel better.
Posted @ Friday, February 27, 2015 9:23 PM by Jenifer
I quit 46 days ago. My husband has hated the nasty habit for the entire time we've been together (13 years) and it's been a major point of contention but I never really wanted to quit before - this time I wanted to. I've been a smoker for 28 years or so (started at 14) - give or take a pack or so a day. I had planned to work my way down, using the gum and other tools but I ended up getting the flu and didn't smoke for 48 hours - I figured I might as well go for it so I went down to our local vapor store, picked up my non-nicotine vapor and hoped that it would be smooth sailing. Well, the cravings are actually not that bad - but my emotions are absolutely out of whack - I feel like I should be in a padded room with the ups and downs - I'm also using herbal cigs (non-nicotine/no tobacco) on a very limited basis which seem to help with the habit but I don't know what to do about the emotions - I should mention that I'm also getting over a very serious boat accident a little over 6 months ago (2 broken shoulders and knee problems) and I've put on a lot of weight (about 20 pounds) because of that so that has a major impact on my self esteem anyway (and moved into a new house and got a new puppy all within the last 6 months) - I have started back with exercising but that's not an overnight kind of thing either. My husband is trying to be supportive but he doesn't quite know how to handle my intense emotions either - any help would be appreciated.
Posted @ Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:05 PM by Jennifer
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